Comments on: Convergent Friends #1 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/ Pushing myself to write... exploring leadership, quakers, church, family, and life. Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:19:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: sailheaven http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/comment-page-1/#comment-36012 sailheaven Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:13:53 +0000 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/#comment-36012 There is a place where lines exist, the place brought forth through the inspiration for this blog, which is obedience. In our obedience, then, we will offer no judgement of human souls, but love consistently. However there does appear a line between the obedient and the disobedient. Our problem is small, then. It is merely to speak the truth for our motives. There are many amongst us that will not obey because they are full of pride and wrath, fighting social fights for the good of few if any, based on isolated experiences of harm not from Christ or God, but men and women that likewise failed in their obedience in some way or other. The way is narrow. It is human to falter, to step wrongly, to stray. So many Friends died in obedience, or the attempt of it, it is unjust to choose any other path as "righteous" in the wake of those martyr's actions. Instead, without judgment of anyone's failures, we should live in the highest state of obedience we may attain, for that is the goal, and will naturally lead us to the work of God, better realized than we ourselves may discover by our faulty reasoning. There is a place where lines exist, the place brought forth through the inspiration for this blog, which is obedience. In our obedience, then, we will offer no judgement of human souls, but love consistently. However there does appear a line between the obedient and the disobedient. Our problem is small, then. It is merely to speak the truth for our motives. There are many amongst us that will not obey because they are full of pride and wrath, fighting social fights for the good of few if any, based on isolated experiences of harm not from Christ or God, but men and women that likewise failed in their obedience in some way or other. The way is narrow. It is human to falter, to step wrongly, to stray. So many Friends died in obedience, or the attempt of it, it is unjust to choose any other path as “righteous” in the wake of those martyr’s actions. Instead, without judgment of anyone’s failures, we should live in the highest state of obedience we may attain, for that is the goal, and will naturally lead us to the work of God, better realized than we ourselves may discover by our faulty reasoning.

]]> By: Robin Mohr http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/comment-page-1/#comment-33024 Robin Mohr Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:27:21 +0000 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/#comment-33024 You inspire me to no end. And this post encouraged me to read part of the letter to the Galations today during meeting for worship. You inspire me to no end. And this post encouraged me to read part of the letter to the Galations today during meeting for worship.

]]> By: Grandpa Koskela http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/comment-page-1/#comment-32632 Grandpa Koskela Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:33:46 +0000 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/#comment-32632 Wow, another POWERFUL sermon, Gregg, if we'll allow it to affect our lives. It's especially "right on" for me. As you well know, with my strict "fundamentalist-evangelical" upbringing, rules (and behavior) were extremely important. In recent years, my spiritual journey has fortunately headed much more in the "grace" direction. But in this sermon you really "nail" the heart of the issue, and your pointing out that God's grace is a free gift and we ought to reflect that in our own attitudes, hits the bullseye. Thanks be to God. Wow, another POWERFUL sermon, Gregg, if we’ll allow it to affect our lives. It’s especially “right on” for me. As you well know, with my strict “fundamentalist-evangelical” upbringing, rules (and behavior) were extremely important. In recent years, my spiritual journey has fortunately headed much more in the “grace” direction. But in this sermon you really “nail” the heart of the issue, and your pointing out that God’s grace is a free gift and we ought to reflect that in our own attitudes, hits the bullseye. Thanks be to God.

]]> By: Gregg Koskela http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/comment-page-1/#comment-32599 Gregg Koskela Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:50:47 +0000 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/#comment-32599 Thank you, Timothy. Again, I wouldn't claim to speak for "convergence"...I was trying to speak from my own perspective and experience what I see as the heart of convergence. Perhaps it's not in other places because I'm a bit of a freak. :) Thank you, Timothy. Again, I wouldn’t claim to speak for “convergence”…I was trying to speak from my own perspective and experience what I see as the heart of convergence. Perhaps it’s not in other places because I’m a bit of a freak. :)

]]> By: Timothy Travis http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/comment-page-1/#comment-32585 Timothy Travis Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:43:47 +0000 http://www.greggsgambles.com/2008/10/06/convergent-friends-1/#comment-32585 Thanks to you for this. This is a surprising post that makes me wonder why I have not seen this point of view in the accumulating literature of convergence. I guess I have not been paying attention. I'll look, again. Thanks, again. Thanks to you for this.

This is a surprising post that makes me wonder why I have not seen this point of view in the accumulating literature of convergence.

I guess I have not been paying attention.

I’ll look, again.

Thanks, again.

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